Roller Rocker's what are some Optiones

[JEFF STRUBE]

I would like to chat about Different Rocker Optione's for are Aluminum Heads. There lot's of Racer's running Shaft Rocker's. I would like to see Pictures and talk about different Optione's

[JEFF STRUBE]

Add something to this Post. Please Pictures or Something

[LARRY70GS]

I'm having Gessler ported TA Aluminum Stage1 SE heads installed on my motor right now. I also sprung for the roller rockers because I always wanted them and Mike was running the BPG sale. When I get the car back, I'll try and post some pictures.

[Jim Rodgers]

TandD, TA (TandD), Jesel, and we are currently putting a set of offset Chevy Rollers with individual shaft mount on an iron head. Will post some pics when we get that far. :WINK:

And stockers of course.

[Eric Schmelzer]

Does Jesel have a website. I'm courious about them. Price and quality

[Jim Rodgers]

http://www.jeselonline.com/

[Eric Schmelzer]

Thanks Jim, Looks like Jesel is WAY OUT of my price range.

[Jim Rodgers]

For what most all of us with BUICKS do every day the T and D rockers are the way to go. Jesel is WAY overkill. When you get into offsets and/or very large cams/valvesprings, the jesel gets the nod but by then the pri$e is not as big a factor.

Jesel products are at the evoloutionary top of the valvetrain food-chain tho.

[Bigwedgie]

I disagree with you Eric, T&D is better than Jessel in my opinion. I'm not talking about their shaft mounted system that TA sells I'm talking about paired 5/8" shaft mount rockers. I will post pictures of the motor I'm putting together for Bonneville. It is a 505cid with Stage 2 TE heads that we are making into Stage 3 or better. The valve train is so very important when you get to this level that I wouldn't trust any body but T&D or Jessel. I still beleive T&D is better.

[Rick]

TandD, TA (TandD), Jesel, and we are currently putting a set of offset Chevy Rollers with individual shaft mount on an iron head. Will post some pics when we get that far. :WINK:

And stockers of course.

Agree with you Jim.:TU: Also on your other post. It can be over kill. I guess it it boils down to what is being built.

After spneding close to a grand on the shaft roller rockers about 3 years ago, my fresh engine I switched over to the Jesel setup. Total price with installation was about $1400. Yes it can be steep but if someone is running a high lift cam or roller setup you will find that you are limited on the valve springs because of the width of the spring hits the roller rocker. So you have to grind material off the rocker for clearance which in turn weakens the rockers. With the Jesel setup I was able to run a stronger valve spring because of the extra clearance.

Case in point, a few years back I broke a rocker and a shaft while racing at Atco. Popped off the covers and there she was in two pieces along with a bent pushrod. I had spares and was able to repair the damage but decided to call it quits, way too much invested. Got home and strained the oil and checked the filter, saw that it did some damage to the bearings from some metal from the shaft that worked its way through some of it was in the filter and in the paint strainer used to strain the oil in the pan. So I had to tear down the engine for a re-build. So in the end the Jesels would have been cheaper.

Now I am not saying this can happen to everyone, just that if your building a high dollar engine, skimping on things may or most likely will cost you down the road. If you skimp and build it half ass most likely you'll be doing it twice $$$ so better to do it right the first time.

If your building a street strip engine or not so radical race engine with no super high lift cam the shaft style most likely will do it is a beautiful piece and does do the trick, but like other parts it does have its limits.

I attached 2 photos showing the 2 different set-ups

Just food for thought.

[Bigwedgie]

Have you guys seen the T&D setup?
I will post some pictures when it is final assembled.

[Gary Kubisch]

http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=27184&highlight=roller

Here's some older pics of my stuff......

After seeing both systems I like my T&D's better for the fact that they tie into the head bolts as opposed to the Jesel's that just thread into the aluminum head casting,"Nit-picking" maybe as both do the job,Just my opinion.

[Gary Kubisch]

Agree with you Jim.:TU: Also on your other post. It can be over kill. I guess it it boils down to what is being built.

After spneding close to a grand on the shaft roller rockers about 3 years ago, my fresh engine I switched over to the Jesel setup. Total price with installation was about $1400. Yes it can be steep but if someone is running a high lift cam or roller setup you will find that you are limited on the valve springs because of the width of the spring hits the roller rocker. So you have to grind material off the rocker for clearance which in turn weakens the rockers. With the Jesel setup I was able to run a stronger valve spring because of the extra clearance.

Case in point, a few years back I broke a rocker and a shaft while racing at Atco. Popped off the covers and there she was in two pieces along with a bent pushrod. I had spares and was able to repair the damage but decided to call it quits, way too much invested. Got home and strained the oil and checked the filter, saw that it did some damage to the bearings from some metal from the shaft that worked its way through some of it was in the filter and in the paint strainer used to strain the oil in the pan. So I had to tear down the engine for a re-build. So in the end the Jesels would have been cheaper.

Now I am not saying this can happen to everyone, just that if your building a high dollar engine, skimping on things may or most likely will cost you down the road. If you skimp and build it half ass most likely you'll be doing it twice $$$ so better to do it right the first time.

If your building a street strip engine or not so radical race engine with no super high lift cam the shaft style most likely will do it is a beautiful piece and does do the trick, but like other parts it does have its limits.

I attached 2 photos showing the 2 different set-ups

Just food for thought.


Exactly the type of scenario I was intending to avoid when I built my engine w/ the individual pairs

[JEFF STRUBE]

When you run those Big Cams with those Big Springs here is the Picture