Johnny, great job on your intake project.![]()
Phil Green
BPG Member #1130
70 GS 455 4spd - Gulfstream blue black top and interior
72 GS 350 - 449hp/447Tq -350, 390 gears, 200 4r
Austin Area Buicks Austin,TX
i had to back and review some of this thread and i noticed it had over 16,000 views.
yikes!
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Get that 350 with that intake going again? I like it. 10,000 rpm LOL. I am tired of the other side. They think I am a rich A-Hole because when someone wants to build parts for the 350 everyone needs to know how much before they buy. Putup $ or shut up. I was making 12.00 per hour when I had the motor built. Plus now I am a wussy for using nitrous on my car. Sick of the crap. I admire what you have done with building your intake. I would offer to get you to build one for me but going to school now and no job is killing me and driving me nuts. I wish TA would have sent you those V-6 heads. I bought stock in J-B Weld just in case! LOL Keep on Trucking.
Guy Fox BPG 1674
71 Skylark 355
13.50 avg. on motor 1.90 60ft. 99 mph
11.81 on 125 shot Nitrous 1.64 60ft. 114 mph
Justa Singleplane and a 75 more shot from 10.99...
Can we put that on at the Nationals?
there's a whole bunch of issues out there.
i shop around for my parts and if i have to, i will buy new. i look at everything i buy, but i invest it for the long term regarding the engine. and it's 6 yrs later($15K) and the 350 has been thru hell and hasn't broke. wish i could say that when i was racing my 455 back in the early 70's.
anything beyond what i build is beyond my technology. you won't see me using a turbo, nos or procharger. way too much tech for me. i like the simple things. lol
one thing everybody has are dreams and hopes, but when reality sets in, they become afraid. sometimes you just can't do that. you have to take that next step to progress, otherwise nothing will happen. i call it "analysis paralysis", all talk, no action.
regardless what the other sites say, the proof is what YOU have done and proven. that's what it's all about. there are leaders and dreamers. if it wasn't for the dreamers, i wouldn't be doing the 350 now.
now back to our regular schedule programming. i do have an intake 1/2 done. it's not as big as mine, but it will make you happy. the offer is, i will finish it on my dime and you can pay me down the road. intake and material is all i will asked for. no labor. but you supply your own j-b weld.
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zombie thread!
i have a question about the intake on pg2, Johnny;
why is there a water passage at the back of the intake with a bypass hose to the front nipple?
my understanding of the water circuit is that it goes radiator > water pump > front face of block > past cylinders to back of block > up into heads > to the front of the engine through the heads > out into the intake > water hose nipple to radiator
is this not correct?
if it is correct, i would think that porting water from the rear of the head directly to the hose nipple on the front of the intake would bypass flow around the heads. and i thought the heads are the most critical part for cooling purposes?
i was kind of following what the mopar guys do. i think i just need to cross the back only. ??? always open for advice.
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on the intakes *that i've paid attention too* ( your mileage may vary ) the intake just blocks off the water passages at the rear of the heads and seals the lifter valleys for oil drainback. in much the same fashion, the block deck dead ends the head-to-block port at the front of the head because the water is going into the intake/radiator.
so far as i can tell, the only reason for the water nipple being integrated into the front of the intake casting is for ease of assembly/casting purposes. from a pure performance aspect, i can't see a reason not to separate the water nipple completely from the intake runners and i don't know why the intake plate at the rear of the head shouldn't be solid and blocking the water ports in the heads off altogether.
if you aren't having heat issues with the intake i'd just leave it alone at this point.
"mileage"...what mileage.all this stuff i make is strictly r&d to see if works. your probably right about the heat issue. i just never paid that much attention to why. but never warped a head or blew a head gasket either. too bad they never finned the heads like they do on lawn mower engines to keep them cool.
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Johnny, I'm better than half way through reading this thread and some others about 350 intakes and with what I have seen and my experience through the years with the intake and head issue, promises, speculation, failed projects and attempts to bring something to market. One fact seems to strike me as gospel, NO manufacturer like edelbrock, or t/a is ever going to produce what we want/ need so if we want to have castings we will have to produce them ourselves. I have done some aluminum casting in the past and am confident I could do a green sand, or lost wax cast intake. heads are more complicated but with the help of some others it might be doable. what I need is an idea of design changes that we need over stock. this will take time a lot of it. but I for one am tired of hearing NO, NO, NO. NOT INTERESTED. OR THE OLD STAND BY " THERE COMMING JUST BE PAITENT" flying cows crapping on us from high altitude.
one time i almost had edelbrock make the s/p intake. the one part that will WAKE up the 350 is a s/p intake. mine comes on around 3500 because of the cam, but it's like hitting the nitrous button. BIG difference. it will go 7500rpm easily with other parts, i.e. at least 2" headers and good porting. but its all simple stuff.![]()
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whats an old poston intake worth guys
lot of people say there's no real improvement using it. i think its all depends on how you build your engine. i'm looking for one to make a blower manifold.
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theres one on ebahttp://www.ebay.com/itm/300860594408?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p39 84.m1431.l2648y right now