OUR LITTLE 350

[gsjohnny]

talked the head manufacturing/production man at edelbrock about the possibility of buying semi-finished mopar victor intakes. said no problem, how many ? yikes, i was taken aback with the answer. really left me stuttering in my mind. what do i say now....ok, one. dont think that was the right answer.
but, i told him about the closeness between the sbm victor and the sbb 350. gave him my name , ph and email. he is going to talk to some people. will till he gets back to me.

andrea says who were you talkng to. said edelbrock and proceeded to tell her what i was up to. ........and then she starts asking me about how much this is and what do you got to do, etc about the intake. asks are you going to be making more of them? another left me stuttering in my mind. sheesh.

back to the intakes.....if we can buy them shrunk down(length), unfinished(hopefully discounted) with 90 degree included flanges, making(gonna try a different way) the adapter plates will be a piece of chocolate. the only thing left would be the stat hsng.
they sell the intakes at 300 now. if they were say 200, they could possibly be built under 500. how much under i dont know and it would a bolt together manifold. this is all dream land, but everybody likes to dream.

spread the word. i need some input from EVERYBODY.


john gudaitis
ellington,ct
860-871-0185

[sbbracer]

Johny is the intake edelbrock talking about the new super victor? I am interested in one.
Dan

[sbbracer]

Just thinking out loud. Could they just add the extra material for the flanges and the water passage as well.? Done deal.
Dan

[gsjohnny]

dan,
they would have to add about an inch to the flange and reconfigure the stat hsng.
possible, not probable.
but, who knows, stranger things have happened. if t/a went to edelbrock and said what i have done, a new 350 intake could be done for next spring.

t/a mike or dave.......what do you think.....the challenge is on.

john

[gsjohnny]

if the last post falls on deaf ears, i will build another intake........

[Mike Atwood]

If you were able to use the victor, just a thought....... how tall are these compared to stock or TA intakes? Is this something us street guys are going to be able to keep under the stock hood?

[Dave Burns]

John,

Personally I think your gonna be on your own here. I really doubt TA has any interest in the 350's. He has quite a lot on his plate with all the BB stuff he's doing. Like the block for example. And the majority of Buick market is in big blocks, we all know that. He's in the business to make money just like everyone else out there. And I would have to guess, that those of us in the 350" click are the minority to them. Just like Poston and everyone else.

If there was any real interest in our motors, we would have had an intake by now. You gotta build your own, or run a stock one. I have said that more in the last couple months that I ever thought I would. Think about it, Sonny has been trying for years to make a 350" run. NO help ! Robs motor took a custom intake to make power. Bills motor was boosted, WITH as I recall a ported stock intake, and now you've built yours. Seems pretty clear to me as to what is thought of our motor. Just watch all the message boards and see how fast you see another "I'm pulling a 350" and putting in a 455" thread. It's been almost a week, should be another start up soon, and another 350" will hit the dirt outside the shop.

[Dave Burns]

If you were able to use the victor, just a thought....... how tall are these compared to stock or TA intakes? Is this something us street guys are going to be able to keep under the stock hood?

TALLER, some, Mike. Especially when you are talking about adding the plates to them. As for fitting under a stock hood, I don't know but I would doubt it. I am starting to learn that the 350" Buick is gonna be a hard one in regards to being street quick, and racing it. Like you want too . Your gonna have to decide between one or the other. I just dont think your gonna be able to have that real fast 350" and still have it streetable. 13's and maybe some 12's though, yea, do-able. But you won't see the 11's as easiely with a 350" in a driver like a 455".

Use your TA intake on yours man. It will be the limiting factor, but at least it's lighter and looks cool. But if you want to put like maybe a stg. 2 scoop on it and make some room for a taller intake.....

[sbbracer]

The main reason that the 350 true potintual has not been realised is in my opinion is the fact that no good intake has been deveoped for racing. Look at all the sb chevy,ford, and mopar at the local bracket races. Most of them have the open plentum intake that run good. This is not for street driven cars. Let us know how johnny,s intake works. This is a great thing that johnny is doing. Keep up the grate effort and maybe edelbrock will help us.
Dan

[Dave Burns]

Dan,

I have Johns cell number here on the ready with speed dial. Come Friday I will be burning up a phone trying to get us an update on the intakes maiden voyage. After talking on the phone last night, it sounds like we got a player . Time will tell and it's only a couiple days away.

[gsjohnny]

If you were able to use the victor, just a thought....... how tall are these compared to stock or TA intakes? Is this something us street guys are going to be able to keep under the stock hood?

mike,
3" taller. but it bascially becomes a tunnel ram. you will need a hood scoop. better go buy one now

when i first tried on intake in the driveway, i could feel a huge difference from the ported t/a. and i mean HUGE !! but this is on my engine. i have the biggest hyd cam t/a makes and jim burek head porting. cant get any better than that for simplicity. but we run a dual point dist. no smancy fancy stuff. just aint dealing with it. and i havent even tuned it.
we still have to add mechanical or shuebeck lifters, roller rockers and the paxton. just plain simple stuff to go fast.

[69GS400s]

I'll be there with Video Cam and Digital Still cam in hand. Want to strap it into the car for a Pass down the 1320 ?? ...of course once its had a few shake-down runs

Larry AKA "Da Wizard" will be there ... I'll have my dial-back timing lite for use and he can throw a Super-Tune on the Dizzy in no time flat. Im sure someone will have a box full of Jets etc. What carb are you using ??

....just make sure to make contact with me. I'll definately be there Sat and friday is a BIG Mebbe ... Look for the Red '69 GS Convert getting called to the tower and asked to leave as usual

[Mike Atwood]

mike,
3" taller. but it bascially becomes a tunnel ram. you will need a hood scoop. better go buy one now

when i first tried on intake in the driveway, i could feel a huge difference from the ported t/a. and i mean HUGE !! but this is on my engine. i have the biggest hyd cam t/a makes and jim burek head porting. cant get any better than that for simplicity. but we run a dual point dist. no smancy fancy stuff. just aint dealing with it. and i havent even tuned it.
we still have to add mechanical or shuebeck lifters, roller rockers and the paxton. just plain simple stuff to go fast.

Sounds like I will need to grab the next "free" Skylark hood that passes my way and make some plans. Right now I want to keep it stock looking and streetable............. but the streets around here are getting real boring. Maybe next year I'll take it up another notch.
I am glad to see that you've gotten some of the results that you had hoped for. I am excited for you....... and all of us...... this is sooooo damn cool!

[Dave Burns]

........ Want to strap it into the car for a Pass down the 1320 ?? ..........

Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllll DUHHHHHHHHH . If John tells you no, just threaten to have me smack him around some . Don't make me buy a plane ticket, I ain't skeert' John, I'll do it...............

We'll be awaiting a video link here in a few days. John, do we have the driver all jacked up yet ? Poor some Yoo-Hoo and Mt Dew down his throat. I fully expect the wheelie bars to hit the ground about 15 feet before the starting line. How long is that car anywaysssss ???

[gsjohnny]

HEY BURNS..............no matter what you build for your 350.......we are going to whip your ass with ours...hahahhahahahahaha